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$1600 på ett NL100 bord på Party... dock var det back in the days med 50bb max-inköp
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Hur ändrar jag rubriken till dagboken?
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Skam den som ger sig! Var som sagt ner $900 pga en serie sjuka beats, missade drag, omöjliga utköp, bluffande in i nötter varje gång, check-raisad på river när de träffar kickern, folk vägrar släppa A2o på AKQ98s-brädor när jag bettar hela vägen med 44, osv osv. Samlade mig, stängde ett bord - körde 5 först oc hdet verkar inte alls gå, spelar ganska mkt sämre märker jag - och hittade fold-knappen samt lite händer som stog igen. Slutar på $125 upp till och med!! Tjohoo! Handen som tog mig upp på pallen (som man säger) ***** Hand History for Game 5220741612 ***** $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 21:06:27 ET 2006 Table Table 109587 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 6: TheTallest1 ( $226.08 ) Seat 3: JWECK222 ( $454.22 ) Seat 1: popocanuck ( $256.85 ) <-- Hyfsat tiltad kille Seat 2: happyclammy ( $198.80 ) Seat 5: megAAlodon ( $125.25 ) Seat 4: doncolion71 ( $106.32 ) happyclammy posts small blind [$1]. JWECK222 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 2h 2c ] doncolion71 folds. megAAlodon folds. TheTallest1 raises [$6]. popocanuck calls [$6]. happyclammy folds. JWECK222 calls [$4]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 2s, Qh ] <-- drömflopp, tusen drag ute, bara man inte blir utköpt nu!!! JWECK222 checks. TheTallest1 bets [$11]. popocanuck raises [$22]. <-- Thank you sir! JWECK222 calls [$22]. TheTallest1 raises [$77]. <-- har tack och lov lite kyla och ställer inte rakt av popocanuck calls [$66]. JWECK222 calls [$66]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ] JWECK222 checks. TheTallest1 is all-In [$132.08] popocanuck: jj.....i know it popocanuck: f f uk popocanuck: maybe 22 TheTallest1: y popocanuck: sh it TheTallest1: thats it popocanuck folds. JWECK222 calls [$132.08]. ** Dealing River ** [ As ] JWECK222 shows [ Kh, 3h ] high card ace. <-- Hur kom du ända hit? TheTallest1 shows [ 2h, 2c ] three of a kind, twos. TheTallest1 wins $544.16 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos. Blivit lill-tilten om han köpt ut mig här... pfwew! +$122 TheTallest1: $4,797 sevenfeet: $441 gnite .
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Ingen direkt read, ganska ny kille, dock inte så aggro så långt... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 20:37:54 ET 2006 Table Table 107401 (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 2: TheTallest1 ( $187.98 ) Seat 4: TheGoodness ( $235.05 ) Seat 6: Ty4TheCash1 ( $232.98 ) Seat 1: Beelzeboz0 ( $211.15 ) Seat 3: smallbass79 ( $218.85 ) Seat 5: seeman911 ( $60 ) Beelzeboz0 posts small blind [$1]. TheTallest1 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Ks Ad ] smallbass79 folds. TheGoodness raises [$6]. Ty4TheCash1 folds. Beelzeboz0 folds. TheTallest1 calls [$4]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 5c, 3c ] TheTallest1 checks. TheGoodness bets [$7]. TheTallest1 raises [$20]. TheGoodness is all-In [$222.05] TheTallest1 does what???? Orka folda?
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Big stack poker, vet ju att han måste ha typ minst KK för att spela vidare om jag höjer ganska mkt, hehe $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 20:06:30 ET 2006 Table Table 107399 (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $794.05 ) Seat 6: PokHer_4Fun ( $775.29 ) Seat 3: baxhasAIDS ( $469.60 ) Seat 4: notna666 ( $276.20 ) Seat 2: Dogboy714 ( $210.60 ) Seat 5: whitedove777 ( $187.95 ) TheTallest1 posts small blind [$1]. Dogboy714 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 8s 8c ] baxhasAIDS folds. notna666 folds. whitedove777 folds. PokHer_4Fun raises [$6]. TheTallest1 raises [$24]. Dogboy714 folds. PokHer_4Fun calls [$19]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Kh, Ac ] TheTallest1 checks. PokHer_4Fun bets [$52]. TheTallest1 raises [$150]. PokHer_4Fun folds. TheTallest1 shows [ 8s, 8c ] a pair of eights. TheTallest1 wins $251 from the main pot with a pair of eights. idiot
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Men äntligen lite medrigg! $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 19:14:43 ET 2006 Table Table 107399 (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $510.30 ) Seat 6: PokHer_4Fun ( $840.29 ) Seat 3: baxhasAIDS ( $482.45 ) Seat 2: Need60KFast ( $200 ) Seat 4: notna666 ( $197 ) Seat 5: DrFeelinF1ne ( $202.75 ) PokHer_4Fun posts small blind [$1]. TheTallest1 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 5h 5s ] Need60KFast folds. baxhasAIDS folds. notna666 calls [$2]. DrFeelinF1ne folds. PokHer_4Fun folds. TheTallest1 checks. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Ah, 5d ] TheTallest1 checks. notna666 bets [$4]. TheTallest1 raises [$11]. notna666 raises [$22]. TheTallest1 raises [$66]. notna666 is all-In [$169] TheTallest1 calls [$118]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ] ** Dealing River ** [ 7h ] TheTallest1 shows [ 5h, 5s ] a full house, Fives full of aces. notna666 doesn't show [ Tc, As ] three of a kind, aces. TheTallest1 wins $392 from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of aces. Och lite pengar gratis... ***** Hand History for Game 5219944297 ***** $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 19:16:00 ET 2006 Table Table 107386 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 2: CENTIGALLI ( $295.75 ) Seat 3: BigManBob ( $39.25 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $260.63 ) Seat 6: acereto ( $300.85 ) Seat 5: sapostol13 ( $69.41 ) Seat 4: slei123 ( $198 ) slei123 posts small blind [$1]. acereto: whats up mate sapostol13 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Js Ac ] acereto folds. TheTallest1 calls [$2]. BigManBob raises [$4]. slei123 folds. sapostol13 calls [$2]. TheTallest1 calls [$2]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 6c, 2c ] sapostol13 bets [$7]. TheTallest1 calls [$7]. BigManBob folds. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ] BigManBob: nld by me sapostol13 bets [$25]. acereto: i like this table 2 swedish 2 gringos an aussie and a mexican lol TheTallest1 calls [$25]. ** Dealing River ** [ 8d ] sapostol13 is all-In [$33.41] TheTallest1 calls [$33.41]. sapostol13 shows [ Jc, 7c ] a flush, jack high. TheTallest1 shows [ Js, Ac ] a flush, ace high. TheTallest1 wins $141.82 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker. Väntade överdrivet länge med att syna turnen, att de köper den lätta! .
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Var $900 back som mest... tagit tillbaka hälften nu iaf... .
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Varför går jag inte bara och lägger mig?!?! $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 18:29:41 ET 2006 Table Table 107424 (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 6: TheTallest1 ( $160.18 ) Seat 3: fastball2169 ( $195.16 ) Seat 4: NTFISH5 ( $148.50 ) Seat 1: berghuizen ( $200.65 ) Seat 2: lost_soul84 ( $92.25 ) Seat 5: Duke23 ( $50.70 ) TheTallest1 posts small blind [$1]. berghuizen posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ As Qs ] lost_soul84 folds. fastball2169 calls [$2]. NTFISH5 folds. Duke23 folds. TheTallest1 raises [$9]. berghuizen folds. fastball2169 calls [$8]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 6s, 8d ] TheTallest1 bets [$18]. fastball2169 calls [$18]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ] TheTallest1 checks. fastball2169 checks. ** Dealing River ** [ Jh ] TheTallest1 bets [$25]. fastball2169 raises [$50]. TheTallest1 calls [$25]. fastball2169 shows [ 8c, Js ] two pairs, jacks and eights. TheTallest1 doesn't show [ As, Qs ] a pair of queens. fastball2169 wins $155 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and eights.
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Vill man hålla nere potten med TPvGK... Såklart spelar han set hur skumt som helst och jag träffar kickern på river bara för att det ska bli så sjukt mkt svårare att komma undan. Utan rivern spelar jag ju lika men foldar river lixom... Jag vet att river inte hjälper mot egentligen några händer han spelar så här, so spare me plz. $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 18:18:55 ET 2006 Table Table 107388 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 3: TheTallest1 ( $183.70 ) Seat 6: kbk6969 ( $121.41 ) Seat 4: Liran2 ( $486.50 ) Seat 1: tehKwan ( $192.35 ) Seat 2: sre94am ( $144.45 ) TheTallest1 posts small blind [$1]. Liran2 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Qh Ac ] kbk6969 folds. tehKwan folds. sre94am folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. Liran2 calls [$6]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 8d, 7h ] TheTallest1 checks. Liran2 checks. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ] TheTallest1 bets [$10]. Liran2 calls [$10]. ** Dealing River ** [ Qs ] TheTallest1 bets [$15]. Liran2 raises [$55]. TheTallest1 calls [$40]. Liran2 shows [ 8c, 8s ] a full house, Eights full of sevens. TheTallest1 doesn't show [ Qh, Ac ] two pairs, aces and queens. Liran2 wins $144 from the main pot with a full house, Eights full of sevens.
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Dålig riversyn men han kan ju inte ha den handen efter mina bets lixom.... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 17:47:46 ET 2006 Table Table 107388 (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 5: smallbass79 ( $222.60 ) Seat 3: TheTallest1 ( $169.15 ) Seat 2: LordGill ( $21.37 ) Seat 1: bobbob22111 ( $202.77 ) Seat 6: kbk6969 ( $187.51 ) Seat 4: Liran2 ( $196 ) LordGill posts small blind [$1]. TheTallest1 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 6d Kc ] Liran2 calls [$2]. smallbass79 folds. kbk6969 calls [$2]. bobbob22111 calls [$2]. LordGill folds. TheTallest1 checks. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Kd, 6c ] TheTallest1 checks. Liran2 bets [$6]. kbk6969 calls [$6]. bobbob22111 calls [$6]. TheTallest1 raises [$25]. Liran2 calls [$19]. kbk6969 folds. bobbob22111 folds. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ] TheTallest1 bets [$50]. Liran2 calls [$50]. ** Dealing River ** [ 9c ] TheTallest1 checks. Liran2 bets [$100]. TheTallest1 is all-In [$92.15] Liran2 shows [ Ts, Qs ] a straight, nine to king. TheTallest1 doesn't show [ 6d, Kc ] two pairs, kings and sixes. Liran2 wins $7.85 from side pot #1 with a straight, nine to king. Liran2 wins $352.30 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.
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nah hade tappat lite igen... now this! Hur mycket kan en kille tilta mig egentligen.... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 17:42:11 ET 2006 Table Table 107399 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: wauhsoj ( $412.56 ) Seat 4: TheAssMan_ ( $213.75 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $206 ) Seat 5: MarioLem66 ( $200 ) Seat 6: PokHer_4Fun ( $504.95 ) Seat 2: mmonte4 ( $342 ) TheAssMan_ posts small blind [$1]. MarioLem66 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 6d 8d ] PokHer_4Fun folds. TheTallest1 raises [$6]. mmonte4 folds. wauhsoj calls [$6]. TheAssMan_ folds. MarioLem66 folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 6s, 7c ] TheTallest1 bets [$12]. wauhsoj calls [$12]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ] TheTallest1 checks. wauhsoj bets [$25]. TheTallest1 raises [$60]. wauhsoj calls [$35]. ** Dealing River ** [ 2d ] TheTallest1: u have a draw... what one TheTallest1 checks. wauhsoj bets [$60.07]. TheTallest1 folds. wauhsoj shows [ Ac, Qs ] high card ace. wauhsoj wins $216.07 from the main pot with high card ace.
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Men.....!!!!!!!!!!! Först tar killen hela min stack när han raisar, jag re-raisar med AK, han synar, floppen A42, allt in mot A4s...... aaarrggh. Och jag mes-reraisar inte pre, minst 10bb till kostar det! Till råga på allt är han i mina ögon typ sämsta spelaren jag sett än så länge på NL200. Fy fan vad han tiltar mig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 21, 17:27:54 ET 2006 Table Table 107399 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: wauhsoj ( $450.16 ) Seat 4: TheAssMan_ ( $224.75 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $160.40 ) Seat 5: MarioLem66 ( $197 ) Seat 6: PokHer_4Fun ( $424.35 ) Seat 2: RiggedRivers ( $206.20 ) wauhsoj posts small blind [$1]. TheAssMan_ is sitting out. MarioLem66 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Js Qc ] PokHer_4Fun folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. RiggedRivers folds. wauhsoj calls [$6]. MarioLem66 calls [$5]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Qs, 6s ] wauhsoj checks. MarioLem66 checks. TheTallest1 bets [$16]. wauhsoj raises [$42]. MarioLem66 folds. TheTallest1 is all-In [$137.40] wauhsoj calls [$111.40]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ] ** Dealing River ** [ 6h ] wauhsoj shows [ Qh, 6d ] a full house, Sixes full of queens. TheTallest1 doesn't show [ Js, Qc ] two pairs, queens and jacks. wauhsoj wins $325.80 from the main pot with a full house, Sixes full of queens.
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Uff... sjukt lång grind. Stora swings. Back runt $400 som mest, jobbade tillbaka, låg mellan $50-$200 upp i flera timmar men fick till slut en liten uppswing och kunde stänga på upp ganska exakt $600. +$600 ------------------------------ Rulle: $4,675 (TheTallest1) $ 441 (sevenfeet) = $5,116 ------------------------------- Borde klara mig fram till den tänkta resan med ett uttag på $2000, kanske mindre. Jag vill helst ha $10k den dag jag drar iväg. Då känner jag att jag har tillräckligt med cash för resa. räkningar hemma under tiden, oförutsedda utgifter och kanske några $$ att grinda med när jag kommer tillbaka. Alltså behöver jag grinda ihop nästan $7k till...! Hua... $30/100 händer är ingen omöjlighet på NL200, ligger lite över det nu. Jag spelar minst 300 händer/h. Det ger $90/h. $9k skulle då alltså ta 100h att grinda ihop. Troligtvis kan jag inte hålla en så hög winrate om jag spelar riktigt mkt för jag blir less. Samtidigt får jag nog in några fler än 300 händer/h och behöver inte $9k utan $7k. 100h får bli målet!!! Börjar med att rapportera timmar + resultat fr o m imorgon. Now, sick tired. Bed. Now. Yes. .
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Killen som spräckte min AA nyss köper in för $100 nya.... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 22:55:16 ET 2006 Table Table 109594 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: Pkizzo ( $205.47 ) Seat 2: TheTallest1 ( $318.64 ) Seat 1: thatswassup ( $398 ) Seat 4: oneshot57 ( $104.22 ) Seat 6: ScottsPot ( $191 ) Seat 5: RiggedRivers ( $200 ) Pkizzo posts small blind [$1]. oneshot57 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 7s 7c ] ScottsPot folds. thatswassup folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. Pkizzo folds. oneshot57 calls [$5]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 3h, 6s ] oneshot57 bets [$10]. TheTallest1 raises [$20]. oneshot57 raises [$20]. TheTallest1 is all-In [$291.64] oneshot57 is all-In [$67.22] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ] ** Dealing River ** [ Qc ] oneshot57 shows [ 6d, 2d ] two pairs, sixes and threes. TheTallest1 shows [ 7s, 7c ] two pairs, sevens and threes. TheTallest1 wins $214.42 from side pot #1 with two pairs, sevens and threes. TheTallest1 wins $207.44 from the main pot with two pairs, sevens and threes. Och nu är han med igen för fullt inköp... nice! ---------------------------- FRÅGA Ingen read direkt, djupa stackar... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 22:55:55 ET 2006 Table Monster #1292411 (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 4: TheTallest1 ( $298.82 ) Seat 3: jlopes34 ( $497.57 ) Seat 6: Pavel8888 ( $105.42 ) Seat 5: ThunderDan27 ( $232.90 ) Seat 1: Gilera200 ( $167.44 ) Seat 2: dancer4eva1 ( $197 ) Gilera200 posts small blind [$1]. dancer4eva1 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Qd Qh ] jlopes34 raises [$6]. TheTallest1 raises [$20]. ThunderDan27 calls [$20]. Pavel8888 folds. Gilera200 folds. dancer4eva1 folds. jlopes34 calls [$14]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 4d, Ts ] jlopes34 checks. TheTallest1 bets [$20]. ThunderDan27 calls [$20]. jlopes34 raises [$40]. TheTallest1 raises [$80]. ThunderDan27 folds. jlopes34 raises [$120]. <-- mjölk-raise? Jaha?? .
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Alltså jag vet inte hur man spelar AA som träffar set.... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 22:48:22 ET 2006 Table Table 109594 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: Pkizzo ( $66.24 ) Seat 2: TheTallest1 ( $476.70 ) Seat 1: thatswassup ( $403 ) Seat 4: oneshot57 ( $198 ) Seat 5: Krac310 ( $383.64 ) Seat 6: ScottsPot ( $194 ) oneshot57 posts small blind [$1]. Krac310 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Ac As ] ScottsPot folds. thatswassup folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. Pkizzo folds. oneshot57 raises [$11]. Krac310 folds. TheTallest1 raises [$26]. oneshot57 calls [$21]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 9s, 8s ] oneshot57 checks. TheTallest1 checks. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ] oneshot57 bets [$10]. TheTallest1 calls [$10]. ** Dealing River ** [ 7s ] oneshot57 bets [$20]. TheTallest1: crap river!!! TheTallest1 calls [$20]. oneshot57 shows [ 6s, 6h ] a straight, six to ten. TheTallest1 doesn't show [ Ac, As ] three of a kind, aces. oneshot57 wins $125 from the main pot with a straight, six to ten. Och så blir samma kille stackad typ handen efter... bordets fisk lixom. Sen får jag en top tvåpar vs botten-set strax efter det... HEJA! .
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42s är ju min favorithand nuförtiden, trodde ju jag skulle stacka honom här men... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 22:40:32 ET 2006 Table Table 107399 (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: ttkm519 ( $259.32 ) Seat 3: seanzee ( $180.04 ) Seat 4: wauhsoj ( $242.83 ) Seat 6: dominic5454 ( $355.09 ) Seat 5: TheTallest1 ( $122.97 ) Seat 2: atcAce ( $198 ) dominic5454 posts small blind [$1]. ttkm519 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 2s 4s ] atcAce folds. seanzee calls [$2]. wauhsoj calls [$2]. TheTallest1 calls [$2]. dominic5454 folds. ttkm519 raises [$13]. seanzee calls [$13]. wauhsoj folds. TheTallest1 calls [$13]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 2c, 2h ] ttkm519 checks. seanzee checks. TheTallest1 bets [$18]. ttkm519 raises [$51]. seanzee folds. TheTallest1 is all-In [$89.97] ttkm519 folds. TheTallest1 shows [ 2s, 4s ] three of a kind, twos. TheTallest1 wins $203.97 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos. . EDIT: "stacka honom"?! jag är ju en short fisk lixom...
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Du kanske har rätt. Nästan even money mot överpar och lite döda pengar i potten eller syn från 3e gubben så blir ju oddsen helt ok. Tycker inte om att riskera hela stacken på coinflips bara... Tack för kommentaren. ---------------------------------------------- Avd. "Vilken fisk jag e" ***** Hand History for Game 5207512134 ***** $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 22:03:09 ET 2006 Table Table 107416 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 5: TheTallest1 ( $775.89 ) Seat 2: bort69 ( $148.65 ) Seat 3: triposys2 ( $179 ) Seat 6: I_M_A_douche ( $204.90 ) Seat 4: jirkman69 ( $394.20 ) Seat 1: RiggedRivers ( $194 ) jirkman69 posts small blind [$1]. TheTallest1 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Kc Ah ] I_M_A_douche folds. RiggedRivers folds. bort69 folds. triposys2 calls [$2]. jirkman69 calls [$1]. TheTallest1 raises [$8]. triposys2 calls [$8]. jirkman69 folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 3c, 7c ] TheTallest1 bets [$20]. triposys2 raises [$40]. TheTallest1 calls [$20]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ] TheTallest1 checks. triposys2 bets [$47]. TheTallest1 calls [$47]. ** Dealing River ** [ Ac ] TheTallest1 is all-In [$678.89] triposys2 folds. TheTallest1 does not show cards. TheTallest1 wins $871.89 lol
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"How to get stacked at a table in 2 hands" $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 21:30:24 ET 2006 Table Monster #1292411 (Real Money) Seat 4 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 4: TheTallest1 ( $216.25 ) Seat 1: kindatight1 ( $193.59 ) Seat 5: luckyman50 ( $247.11 ) Seat 2: tl509512 ( $222.23 ) Seat 6: lpenny ( $182.09 ) Seat 3: jlopes34 ( $174.90 ) luckyman50 posts small blind [$1]. lpenny posts big blind [$2]. tl509512 posts big blind + dead [$3]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Jc Kc ] kindatight1 calls [$2]. tl509512 folds. jlopes34 calls [$2]. TheTallest1 raises [$11]. luckyman50 folds. lpenny folds. kindatight1 folds. jlopes34 calls [$9]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Jh, 9c ] jlopes34 checks. TheTallest1 bets [$22]. jlopes34 calls [$22]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ] jlopes34 checks. TheTallest1 bets [$33]. jlopes34 calls [$33]. ** Dealing River ** [ Ad ] jlopes34 bets [$10]. TheTallest1 calls [$10]. jlopes34 shows [ Ac, 8h ] two pairs, aces and nines. TheTallest1 shows [ Jc, Kc ] two pairs, jacks and nines. The time at which hand ended:Sep 19 2006 21:31 ET jlopes34 wins $156.50 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and nines. $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 21:33:06 ET 2006 Table Monster #1292411 (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 4: TheTallest1 ( $140.25 ) Seat 1: kindatight1 ( $253.90 ) Seat 5: luckyman50 ( $246.11 ) Seat 2: tl509512 ( $219.23 ) Seat 6: lpenny ( $119.28 ) Seat 3: jlopes34 ( $251.40 ) kindatight1 posts small blind [$1]. tl509512 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Th Td ] jlopes34 calls [$2]. TheTallest1 raises [$10]. luckyman50 folds. lpenny calls [$10]. kindatight1 calls [$9]. tl509512 folds. jlopes34 folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 3c, 4h ] kindatight1 checks. TheTallest1 bets [$22]. lpenny folds. kindatight1 is all-In [$243.90] TheTallest1 is all-In [$108.25] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ] ** Dealing River ** [ Qd ] TheTallest1 shows [ Th, Td ] a pair of tens. kindatight1 shows [ Qc, Ac ] a pair of queens. The time at which hand ended:Sep 19 2006 21:33 ET kindatight1 wins $113.65 from side pot #1 with a pair of queens. kindatight1 wins $291 from the main pot with a pair of queens. Motrigg totale.... $200 back .
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Back igen... jobbig!!!!!!!! ***** Hand History for Game 5206947120 ***** $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 20:47:20 ET 2006 Table Table 107412 (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 6: TheTallest1 ( $542.85 ) Seat 4: Howard__Roark ( $378 ) Seat 2: rws3144 ( $111.85 ) Seat 5: Beelzeboz0 ( $220.40 ) Seat 1: artiecat9 ( $257.50 ) Seat 3: RailRoadTy ( $192.60 ) artiecat9 posts small blind [$1]. rws3144 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Tc Jc ] RailRoadTy folds. Howard__Roark folds. Beelzeboz0 raises [$8]. TheTallest1 calls [$8]. artiecat9 folds. rws3144 calls [$6]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 5c, Jd ] rws3144 bets [$25]. Beelzeboz0 is all-In [$212.40] TheTallest1 calls [$212.40]. rws3144 folds. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ] ** Dealing River ** [ Ks ] Beelzeboz0 shows [ 4c, Ac ] a flush, ace high. TheTallest1 shows [ Tc, Jc ] a flush, jack high. Beelzeboz0 wins $471.80 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker. tveksam syn på floppen kanske men draget är föööör bra, plus att jag vet att han tror att han bara spelar den andra tiltade killen...
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Så va man på plus igen... men vad trögt det går annars Skönt att det fick stå, spelade honom bra i den här potten, han hade raisat pre varje hand sen han fick upp lite stack och som tur var så gick han i fällan, sweet! $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 20:33:18 ET 2006 Table Table 107412 (Real Money) Seat 6 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 6: TheTallest1 ( $269.65 ) Seat 4: Howard__Roark ( $183.75 ) Seat 2: rws3144 ( $593.55 ) Seat 5: Beelzeboz0 ( $222.65 ) Seat 1: artiecat9 ( $195.70 ) Seat 3: RailRoadTy ( $200 ) artiecat9 posts small blind [$1]. rws3144 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Ac Ad ] Howard__Roark folds. Beelzeboz0 folds. TheTallest1 calls [$2]. artiecat9 calls [$1]. rws3144 raises [$7]. TheTallest1 raises [$28]. artiecat9 folds. rws3144 calls [$21]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 7c, Tc ] rws3144 bets [$60]. TheTallest1 raises [$120]. rws3144 calls [$60]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ] rws3144 checks. TheTallest1 is all-In [$119.65] rws3144 calls [$119.65]. ** Dealing River ** [ Js ] rws3144 shows [ Kc, Td ] two pairs, jacks and tens. TheTallest1 shows [ Ac, Ad ] two pairs, aces and jacks. TheTallest1 wins $539.30 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks. .
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2 x JJ... Jag vet att jag inte ligger efter.... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 19:42:34 ET 2006 Table Table 107410 (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: edward315 ( $165.56 ) Seat 4: JackHammer01 ( $0 ) Seat 5: Kugr84 ( $223.11 ) Seat 6: dbiffin ( $330.32 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $265.86 ) Seat 2: BeeHolder ( $155.39 ) BeeHolder posts small blind [$1]. edward315 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Js Jc ] Kugr84 calls [$2]. dbiffin folds. TheTallest1 raises [$8]. BeeHolder raises [$28]. edward315 folds. Kugr84 folds. TheTallest1 is all-In [$257.86] BeeHolder is all-In [$126.39] ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 2d, As ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ] ** Dealing River ** [ Ts ] BeeHolder shows [ Ac, Jd ] two pairs, aces and tens. TheTallest1 shows [ Js, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and tens. TheTallest1 wins $110.47 from side pot #1 with two pairs, jacks and tens. BeeHolder wins $312.78 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and tens. Inte så stygg men kom ca 6 sekunder efter den förra... ***** Hand History for Game 5206446166 ***** $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 19:42:16 ET 2006 Table Monster #1292411 (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 1: mama_bear751 ( $162.94 ) Seat 4: TheTallest1 ( $163.55 ) Seat 5: suleyka ( $224.84 ) Seat 6: blackcats ( $194 ) Seat 2: western1234 ( $66.71 ) western1234 posts small blind [$1]. TheTallest1 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Jc Jh ] suleyka folds. blackcats folds. mama_bear751 folds. western1234 calls [$1]. TheTallest1 raises [$4]. western1234 calls [$4]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 4c, 5s ] western1234 checks. mike2d has joined the table. TheTallest1 bets [$8]. western1234 is all-In [$60.71] TheTallest1 calls [$52.71]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ] ** Dealing River ** [ Kc ] TheTallest1 shows [ Jc, Jh ] a pair of jacks. western1234 shows [ Ks, Js ] a pair of kings. The time at which hand ended:Sep 19 2006 19:43 ET western1234 wins $130.92 from the main pot with a pair of kings.
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Masterplan coming up, ska ta en liten paus nu, är lite småtiltad och tänkte att det kan vara bättre att ta tag i den istället för att spela mer just nu... Spelat 5 bord NL200 nu i en dryg timme. Svänger ju bra... Började med denna totalriggade hand.... *lite whine* $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 16:41:59 ET 2006 Table Table 107407 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: IFlopGoot ( $219.90 ) Seat 2: jasonfox99 ( $371.71 ) Seat 4: WReKinSkInz ( $131.95 ) Seat 5: mrface ( $358.80 ) Seat 6: PSeeward ( $213.85 ) Seat 3: TheTallest1 ( $199 ) WReKinSkInz posts small blind [$1]. mrface posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 7h 7c ] PSeeward folds. IFlopGoot raises [$7]. <-- Han som raisar först in också... TheTallest1 calls [$7]. WReKinSkInz folds. mrface calls [$5]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 7s, 5d ] mrface checks. IFlopGoot bets [$13]. TheTallest1 raises [$30]. mrface folds. IFlopGoot raises [$47]. TheTallest1 calls [$30]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ] IFlopGoot bets [$100]. <-- SWEET! tänker man ju.... TheTallest1 is all-In [$132] IFlopGoot calls [$32]. ** Dealing River ** [ As ] IFlopGoot shows [ 8h, 6h ] a straight, four to eight. TheTallest1 doesn't show [ 7h, 7c ] three of a kind, sevens. IFlopGoot wins $404 from the main pot with a straight, four to eight. ------------------------------------------ $130-pott på A-hög är ju najs.. $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 16:57:18 ET 2006 Table Table 109608 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 1: jlewis1000 ( $406.05 ) Seat 3: a_isno_borc ( $219 ) Seat 4: Bierreinheit ( $222.80 ) Seat 5: jsalt88 ( $180.60 ) Seat 2: TheTallest1 ( $290.25 ) Seat 6: BeeHolder ( $91.40 ) a_isno_borc posts small blind [$1]. Bierreinheit posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ 9c Ac ] jsalt88 folds. BeeHolder calls [$2]. jlewis1000 folds. TheTallest1 raises [$9]. a_isno_borc calls [$8]. Bierreinheit folds. BeeHolder calls [$7]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, Js, 5c ] a_isno_borc checks. BeeHolder checks. TheTallest1 checks. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ] a_isno_borc checks. BeeHolder bets [$15]. TheTallest1 raises [$50]. a_isno_borc folds. BeeHolder calls [$35]. ** Dealing River ** [ 5d ] BeeHolder checks. TheTallest1 checks. BeeHolder shows [ 8s, 9h ] a pair of fives. TheTallest1 shows [ 9c, Ac ] a pair of fives. TheTallest1 wins $126 from the main pot with a pair of fives with ace kicker. -------------------------------------- FRÅGA Här undrar jag om han verkligen ska kunna göra den sista raisen preflop?? Bettingen kan ju inte öppnas igen pga typ 12cents? Eller? Vet att vissa sajter haft denna bugg men var säker på att jag tvingats till bara syn flera ggr på Party. Var iofs post-flop, men det kan väl inte spela roll? Tiltar ju på detta samtidigt som jag tyckte att han såg ut att vilja isolera mot shortyn... Gillade river men såklart har han hjärter också... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 17:34:42 ET 2006 Table Table 107430 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 2: a_isno_borc ( $200 ) Seat 4: jimcat113 ( $184.70 ) Seat 5: Quiebuzz ( $334.55 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $224.50 ) Seat 6: gold46 ( $202.50 ) Seat 3: yzeig ( $26.10 ) yzeig posts small blind [$1]. jimcat113 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Th Td ] Quiebuzz folds. gold46 folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. a_isno_borc folds. yzeig raises [$14]. jimcat113 raises [$23.57]. TheTallest1 calls [$18.57]. yzeig is all-In [$11.10] jimcat113 raises [$83.86]. TheTallest1: what?!?!?! you are not supposed to be able to do that!! TheTallest1 is all-In [$198.93] jimcat113 is all-In [$75.27] ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3c, Qh ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ] ** Dealing River ** [ Jh ] jimcat113 shows [ Ad, Ah ] a flush, ace high. TheTallest1 shows [ Th, Td ] a flush, queen high. yzeig doesn't show [ Kh, Ks ] a flush, king high. TheTallest1 wins $39.80 from side pot #2 with a flush, queen high. jimcat113 wins $317.20 from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high with ace kicker. jimcat113 wins $75.30 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker. ------------------------------ FRÅGA 2 $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 18:00:41 ET 2006 Table Table 109615 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 4 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 2: centgas ( $405 ) Seat 4: GiVeMeTheCake ( $461.10 ) Seat 5: TheTallest1 ( $198.10 ) Seat 1: happyclammy ( $200 ) Seat 3: jelnick ( $70.46 ) TheTallest1 posts small blind [$1]. happyclammy posts big blind [$2]. jelnick posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Jd Th ] centgas folds. jelnick raises [$2]. GiVeMeTheCake folds. TheTallest1 calls [$3]. happyclammy calls [$2]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Ks, 9h ] <-- dubbelpipa TheTallest1 checks. happyclammy checks. jelnick bets [$4]. TheTallest1 calls [$4]. happyclammy raises [$16]. jelnick calls [$12]. TheTallest1 calls [$12]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ] <-- nöten TheTallest1 checks. happyclammy bets [$40]. jelnick is all-In [$50.46] TheTallest1 does what??? Frågan är ju om jag ska dega in direkt eller.... va fan jag behöver ju inte fråga ens... han visar ju rätt stor styrka och jag har satt en väl döljd stege, såklart jag ska dega elr iaf höja. Jag tänkte dock när jag satt där att han skulle kunna hitta folden då en är all-in redan och han får se min hand i vilket fall som helst. Han hade trots allt $125 kvar bakom. Jag synade bara och hoppades på en ofarlig river som jag kunde check-raisa. Tyvärr kom en hjärter och jag degade in då istället... lol@me jag vet. Jag är ju inte rädd att han ska ha hjärter så inte lol för det utan för att jag ju kan få max typ $20 betalt av honom då. Samt en liten risk att jag degar rakt in i färgen i onödan förstås. Hur som så foldar han såklart på river och den andra killen vinner handen på K8s hjärter. Kände tilten efter det och lade ner direkt och nu sitter jag här istället och skriver. ------------------------------------------------- FRÅGA 3 Denna är mer intressant och har en ännu intressantare bakgrund. Min fi i potten så mig först re-raisa preflop på knappen med 96s och klonka ut 88 med en nia på turn. Sen ett par händer senare betalar han av mig med TPTK mot mitt set. Pott-bet på flop, turn, river. Därför han är short i den här handen som är bara nån minut efter. Jag känner att han är småtiltad på mig nu och vill ta ner mig i en pott till varje pris. Tror dock inte han är en outright sopa. Så kommer denna handen.... $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 19, 17:31:14 ET 2006 Table Table 107430 (Real Money) Seat 4 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 2: a_isno_borc ( $216.50 ) Seat 4: jimcat113 ( $72.85 ) Seat 5: Quiebuzz ( $335.55 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $300.35 ) Seat 6: gold46 ( $175 ) Seat 3: yzeig ( $59.10 ) Quiebuzz posts small blind [$1]. gold46 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Kd As ] TheTallest1 raises [$7]. a_isno_borc folds. yzeig folds. jimcat113 calls [$7]. <-- räknar jag med Quiebuzz folds. gold46 folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, Qd, Kc ] <-- ok, men lite läskig flop TheTallest1 checks. jimcat113 checks. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ] <-- ofarlig och nu måste jag ju betta TheTallest1 bets [$10]. jimcat113 calls [$10]. <-- jaha, kan vara precis vad som helst ** Dealing River ** [ Kh ] <-- nu slår jag även QJ och inga drag gick in TheTallest1 does what??? Frågan är hur jag ska få mest betalt? Betta hur mkt? Risk att jag är slagen? Kan check-call/check-raise vara en idé? All-in? Han borde ju kunna tilt-syna med en Dam etc, eller? Back $200 bara då jag spelade riktigt bra tycker jag förutom TT-handen kanske. Nya tag om en stund. Ciao
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I have a soulmate, lol. Jag foldade faktiskt den här gången, stegkortet på turn fällde väl avgörandet. Hade det kommit ett obetydligare kort som inte hjälpt några drag och han bettat bara lite mindre löper jag nog ganska stor risk för att åka dit stort på den handen. Nu kändes hans bet på turn mer som att han hoppades att jag skulle sitta på JJ och dega in. AJ eller JT på hand tycker jag spelar minimal roll i det här fallet, fi har knappast par i Knektar här. Färgdraget eller kanske 99-TT är troligtvis det enda jag slår och procenten på att han sitter på ngn av dem känns ytterst låg. Stål/bluff ligger på en höft kanske runt 90%/10%. Foldade med ganska gott självförtroende här. Det hjälpte att han trots allt givit upp potten i liknande läge iaf 3 ggr innan, dvs att han förmodligen väntade på en hand. Jag hade haft svårare att folda om det varit redan andra läget han spelat tillbaka lika starkt. Liknande lägen ställer dock till problem ganska ofta och jag undrar om det finns någon gyllene regel att gå efter här? Frekvens på att spela vidare? Släppa alla lägen där fi kör såhär hårt? Jag brukar ibland checka bakom på floppen och hålla ner potten om jag höjt först in på knappen och floppar TPNK. Brukar dock var med händer som Ax eller KJ-K7 där risken för ett spoilercard på turn inte är lika stor. Med TP knektar finns det för många spoilers och då vill jag ju betta floppen. Tack för era synpunkter och försök gärna ge fler tips på hur man kan spela i dessa lägen! /7ft.
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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, September 18, 16:49:04 ET 2006 Table Monster #1293288 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: Sepultra ( $556 ) Seat 5: GeneralZod_ ( $253.50 ) Seat 6: Mockinbrd ( $255.23 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $317.93 ) Seat 4: basket114 ( $200 ) Seat 2: aecullen ( $209.30 ) aecullen posts small blind [$1]. Sepultra posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Tc Jc ] basket114 folds. GeneralZod_ folds. Mockinbrd folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. aecullen calls [$6]. Sepultra folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 7h, 6s ] aecullen checks. TheTallest1 bets [$10]. aecullen raises [$25]. TheTallest1 calls [$15]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ] aecullen bets [$55]. TheTallest1 does what??? Tycker det här ett riktigt jobbigt läge. Jag höjer mkt ofta först in på knappen och det här är väl 3e på raken mot denna killen. Han har synat en gång men släppt på floppen så han kan mkt väl tänka att nu fan får det vara nog med raisandet. Jobbiga är ju att han såklart kan ha väntat på en hand också. Frågan är om det finns värde i att dega här ibland???
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Fan vad jag skjuter upp saker... tänkte på det med the master plan. Idag var det tydligen mkt roligare att testa på NL200 igen, typ ett halvår sen jag var där nu. Rullen på runt $3,5, så lite i underkant för NL200 alltså. Motståndet visade sig ju inte särskilt mkt bättre än på NL100 så jag blev sittandes typ 2000 händer. Återigen hade jag ingen foldknapp till en början och fick sjuka swings. Upp $650 efter kanske 2h, tappade sen $500 därifrån under en riktigt kall och slaskig period på kanske 1,5h. Slutade iaf till slut på ett hälsosamt plus i trakterna av $1100. Så sweet. Bra spel förutom nämnda period och lite klonk såklart. Missade inte många färgdrag i dag tror jag. Kom till slut in i zonen och började hitta även foldknappen. $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, September 18, 19:12:31 ET 2006 Table Monster #1293480 (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 2: Buckets100 ( $196.15 ) Seat 5: Tighton ( $298.02 ) Seat 4: TheTallest1 ( $411.62 ) Seat 1: TaeQuadDo ( $220.14 ) Seat 6: me2no ( $104.30 ) me2no posts small blind [$1]. TaeQuadDo posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Jc Td ] Buckets100 folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. Tighton calls [$7]. me2no folds. TaeQuadDo folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 2c, 6h ] TheTallest1 bets [$10]. Tighton calls [$10]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ] TheTallest1 bets [$25]. Tighton raises [$50]. TheTallest1 folds. Tighton does not show cards. The time at which hand ended:Sep 18 2006 19:13 ET Tighton wins $109.50 TheTallest1: set. Tighton: yeh Tighton: 666 ------------------------------------ FRÅGA $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, September 18, 16:49:04 ET 2006 Table Monster #1293288 (No DP) (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 6 Seat 3: Sepultra ( $556 ) Seat 5: GeneralZod_ ( $253.50 ) Seat 6: Mockinbrd ( $255.23 ) Seat 1: TheTallest1 ( $317.93 ) Seat 4: basket114 ( $200 ) Seat 2: aecullen ( $209.30 ) aecullen posts small blind [$1]. Sepultra posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheTallest1 [ Tc Jc ] basket114 folds. GeneralZod_ folds. Mockinbrd folds. TheTallest1 raises [$7]. aecullen calls [$6]. Sepultra folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 7h, 6s ] aecullen checks. TheTallest1 bets [$10]. aecullen raises [$25]. TheTallest1 calls [$15]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ] aecullen bets [$55]. TheTallest1 does what??? Tycker det här ett riktigt jobbigt läge. Jag höjer mkt ofta först in på knappen och det här är väl 3 på raken mot denna killen. Han har synat en gång men släppt på floppen så han kan mkt väl tänka att nu fan får det vara nog med raisandet. Jobbiga är ju att han såklart kan ha väntat på en hand också. Frågan är om det finns värde i att dega här ibland???