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Är det inte så att banken, för att de ska blockera en transaktion, skall ha skälig anledning att tro att transaktionen är avsedd för spel? Troligen kommer väl transaktioner till neteller även att anses vara för spel, eftersom typ alla som använder neteller gör det för spel. Men som sagt, det ligger på bankerna, så jag har svårt att förstå varför t ex party verkar ha för avsikt att stänga av amerikanska spelare. Det verkar överdrivet i dagsläget tycker jag.

 

Edit: Oj, såg nu att det tydligen inte var tillåtet för siterna att ta emot betalning heller, damn!

 

Edit 2: Fast iofs, de flesta siter är ju inte belägna i USA, så vad spelar det för roll...

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U.S. Internet Gaming Legislation Validates CryptoLogic's Global Strategy

Licensees will no longer take U.S. bets; after five years of planning, software provider well-positioned with revenue and customers based in world's most attractive e-gaming markets

 

TORONTO, ONTARIO -- (MARKET WIRE) -- October 02, 2006 -- ALL FIGURES IN $US

 

CryptoLogic Inc. (TSX: CRY)(NASDAQ: CRYP)(LSE: CRP), a leading software developer to the global Internet gaming industry, announced that effective immediately licensees of WagerLogic Limited, the company's licensing subsidiary, will not take wagers from U.S.-based players. This is a result of new legislation expected to be signed today by President Bush that prohibits financial transaction processing in the U.S. online gaming market. The company has spent five years preparing for this eventuality by shifting its revenue base to fast-growing European markets, and is positioned for long-term profitability and growth.

 

"Since 2001, CryptoLogic has been shifting its business to Europe, and our record revenue and earnings in 2005 and 2006 to date flow from our success in the markets that embrace Internet gaming," said Lewis Rose, CryptoLogic's President and CEO. "While the new U.S. developments will be a challenge for the whole industry, our company's diversification, strong balance sheet, thriving European customers and potential new business in emerging markets enable us to face the future with confidence."

 

With more than 70% of its licensees' revenue now coming from outside the U.S., CryptoLogic is one of the industry's most geographically diversified businesses. The company also enjoys a very strong balance sheet. At June 30, 2006, CryptoLogic had $126 million in cash, $91.7 million in net working capital and no long term debt. Based on historical results, the annualized impact on revenue of today's decision would have been approximately $30 million for the full year 2006, with an estimated effect on earnings of approximately 80% of that amount. In its remaining business, the company continues to maintain its corporate objective of growing revenue by 20%. Continued, strong organic growth, the launch of Playboy's non-U.S. facing Internet casino and Internet poker sites and potential signings of new licensees will help CryptoLogic in this goal.

 

On the evening of Friday, September 29, the U.S. Congress adopted the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006, which prohibits financial transactions processing for certain types of Internet gaming. Certain types of gaming are exempt, including horse racing, state lotteries and intratribal transactions. The legislation addresses previous uncertainties in the law governing non-sports Internet gaming in the U.S.

 

The U.S. approach contrasts with that of the United Kingdom and other European markets, which are moving to regulate Internet gaming for fiscal and social benefits.

 

"We believe Internet gaming can and should be regulated, licensed and taxed. The U.K. model is the right one: create a safe, secure and regulated environment for players to enjoy this form of entertainment," Rose said. "We will continue to advocate regulation as the logical solution for all stakeholders, including players, investors, and governments. In the meantime, we will continue to deepen our existing relationships and attract potential new customers in Europe, Asia and other thriving and emerging markets."

 

CryptoLogic is proceeding with its plan to locate its global headquarters in Ireland, with continued commitment to its operations in Canada, the United Kingdom, Cyprus and Singapore.

 

As a global and publicly-traded developer and supplier of Internet casino and poker software, CryptoLogic is one of the world's few companies with government-approved Internet gaming software and remains committed to the highest standards of regulatory compliance.

 

Där rök crypto, känns som en tidfråga tills ongame, prima o UB följer efter

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Men alltså. Ingen lag borde väl kunna hindra USA-banker att genomföra transaktioner med utländska företag?

 

"Online gaming sites are prohibited from accepting payment from a U.S. financial institution. Since all online sites are outside of the U.S., our government has no jurisdiction to enforce this part of the law.

Simply stated, the U.S. cannot make laws or enforce laws regarding business outside the U.S."

http://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/15608

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Om stars nu också bannar US, hur stor del av SnG trafiken tror ni då försvinner?

 

Kommer nog att kännas mest nattetid, då 80% verkar vara amerikaner medan det dagtid kväll är en stor andel europeer/annan härkomst. Vi får väl se när saker börjar falla på plats :), 15k online just nu 80k inatt. Gissar på 8k dagtid om två veckor och och 10-15 på natten, blir spännande att se.

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Official statement from PokerStars

 

Hi folks -

Obviously, there are many unanswered questions at this point - we'll let you know more as time progresses.

 

However, there are three important things that we can tell you right now:

 

1. Your money is completely safe at PokerStars. It's kept in a segregated account at one of the largest banks in Europe.

 

2. You do, and will, have 24/7 access to your account funds. You will always be able to get to your money.

 

3. We have not made a decision one way or another as regards closing our American accounts.

 

The other thing that I can promise is that we'll keep the lines of communication open to forums such as these. Stay tuned.

 

Best regards,

Lee Jones

PokerStars Poker Room Manager

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Alternative payment processor Neteller has told its US customers it plans to carry on operating “its business as normal”.

 

In its statement, Neteller said: “The Bill states that there will be a period of up to nine months for the US regulators to prescribe regulations requiring each designated payment system and all participants therein to identify and block or otherwise prevent or prohibit restricted transactions.

 

While PartyGaming and 888 have said they would not accept bets from US customers anymore, Sportingbet will, as long as their payment processors will supply them. It said: “Should Sportingbet’s non-US international banking partners to determine the Act applied to them, then Sportingbet would not be able to take deposits from US residents.”

 

sitt i båten...inte gunga... :roll:

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Kollade "Terms and conditions" för Partys Monster. Snacka om att de har möjlighet att blåsa en. I princip sägs att om de stryker Monstret nu behöver de inte betala ut ett öre till oss som kvalat in till Grand Final:

 

"PartyPoker.com reserves the right to alter, amend or terminate this Promotion, or any aspect of it, at any time and without prior notice. We may make changes to these Terms and Conditions and will notify you of these changes by posting the modified terms on this page. We recommend that you revisit these Terms and Conditions regularly. By your continued participation in the Promotion you acknowledge your acceptance of any such changes. "

 

"If the Promotion cannot be executed as planned, including any problems or technical malfunction beyond the control of PartyPoker.com, PartyPoker.com shall incur no liability and prizes will not be awarded."

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Kollade "Terms and conditions" för Partys Monster. Snacka om att de har möjlighet att blåsa en. I princip sägs att om de stryker Monstret nu behöver de inte betala ut ett öre till oss som kvalat in till Grand Final:

 

"PartyPoker.com reserves the right to alter, amend or terminate this Promotion, or any aspect of it, at any time and without prior notice. We may make changes to these Terms and Conditions and will notify you of these changes by posting the modified terms on this page. We recommend that you revisit these Terms and Conditions regularly. By your continued participation in the Promotion you acknowledge your acceptance of any such changes. "

 

"If the Promotion cannot be executed as planned, including any problems or technical malfunction beyond the control of PartyPoker.com, PartyPoker.com shall incur no liability and prizes will not be awarded."

 

Precis vad jag tänkte i en anna tråd. De skaffade sig en livboj. Går färsöaget igenom. Har de dragit in massor med mer rake. Går det inte igenom så är det som vanligt. Allt för aktieägarna.

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Precis vad jag tänkte i en anna tråd. De skaffade sig en livboj. Går färsöaget igenom. Har de dragit in massor med mer rake. Går det inte igenom så är det som vanligt. Allt för aktieägarna.

 

Det skulle ju vara sjukt dålig PR för dem om ingen ersättning utgick. Bäst vore förmodligen att "köpa ut" de amerikaner som kvalat in och därefter fortsätta som vanligt. Merparten av prispoolen står trots allt spelarna för, så det borde inte bli någon jätteförlust för dem.

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Borde ju iofs betyda att partys och andras vecko-turrar flyttas till europa tider. Inget ont som inte har något gott med sig. ;)

 

Sen att jag spelar mest på SvS och sun poker som inte har så stor amerikabas av spelare gör att jag är hyffsat lugn.

 

Bra om det blir bättre tider, men jag vill ju ha chansen att bli miljonär varje söndag :evil: .

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Detta kan innebära att WSOP 2006 ME blir alla tiders största pokerturnering. Det lär bli stort deltagarfall utan amerikanska nätsattelittare. Hmm.. fler europeiska än amerikanska spelare? ;)

 

Klart är att de spelbolagen inte tycks försöka mygla sig förbi förbudet som väntas komma inom två veckor. Party stänger av amerikanska spelare från "real money"-borden.

 

Partygaming

As a result of this development, the Board of PartyGaming has determined that if the President signs the Act into law, the Company will suspend all real money gaming business with US residents, and such suspension will continue indefinitely, subject to clarification of the interpretation and enforcement of US law and the impact on financial institutions of this and other related legislation.
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